srf walrus

what is your opinions about the forum srf walrus-if i am to belive them srf seems to be a cult with nuns and monks spying on ethaother.and that srf treat people bad and calling the mahtas bad womens-i dont now what to belive .but i belive they are rigt in saying that if u leave srf u leave yogananda i think many fear this-perhaps srf have never wrigt that but i am sure many think this way-

[pachiaammos]

Originally Posted by jonsunde

what is your opinions about the forum srf walrus-if i am to belive them srf seems to be a cult with nuns and monks spying on ethaother.and that srf treat people bad and calling the mahtas bad womens

What a load of rubbish.

-i dont now what to belive .but i belive they are rigt in saying that if u leave srf u leave yogananda i think many fear this-perhaps srf have never wrigt that but i am sure many think this way-

Yogananda asks us to be loyal to SRF. But for those to whom He is Guru, He will be loyal to you whatever you do. Even if it takes you 5000 years to come back to choosing Him, He will not let you down. He does not reject anybody, he is a jagadguru, a Guru for the whole world, as well as the personal liberation Guru for me and some millions of others.

Fear has no place in Yogananda's teachings. Caution and prudence can be appropriate in some situations, but never fear.

[Jai Guruji]

It kind of reminds me of another former disciple who has nothing but bad things to say about SRF and "the Matas".

What Wade said is right. What a bunch of rubbish! I would stay away from that site. I found it 4 years ago, I no longer return.

They do not listen to reason and the only reason it exists is to detract the teachings, be dismissive of disciples who stayed and negatively impact SRF and Masters teachings. Just another delusive force if you ask me.

Flies like to gather around filth. That is all I can say. Be like a bee that likes to gather nectar. (paraphrasing Ma)



Blessings,


Ellyn

[Delsol]

I agree with the above, but have to add please, please, please be sure when discussing this topic here to stay within the Tolerance Guidelines of this board. (Thank you!) To disparage a board that disparages others makes one board just like the other, and that's something we really don't want in this sweet space. Thank you for understanding!!

[iceman]

I won't post some personal observations. The Master did
say than when we complain, we are with the world. Enuff
said.

[Jai Guruji]

There is so much good to focus on in Masters teachings. Let us not give these things any of our time.
Masters teachings are so vast why not let us swim in the ocean of his unceasing love?


_/|\_



Ellyn

[Snow Angel]

I try hard to not intentionally expose myself to people or things that
degrade my beliefs, whether it be my spiritual organization, my family, or
my friends. There is a difference between healthy questioning and degrading.

[alta g]

Bless them that curse you.

See your enemies as us rather than them and may the Lord fill us with peace and harmony....peace and harmony...peace and harmony.

May God bless us all

[mccoy]

A board made up by disgruntled ex-members cannot possibly say nice things about SRF, and is hardly what I would call an unbiased source of information...

[rasa]

I enjoy an independant stance from all religious organizations, though I was happy to find that if I took their posts as truth..

...that the problems with SRF are petty, and not real problems at all.

I appreciate the organization's efforts in printing, publishing and maintaining centers. Srf walrus certainly wouldn't stop me from contributing in some small way.

[shane]

We dont have to worry about such sights, if we live the gurus teachings and are loyal to our organization we will be free from maya. SRF has a solid foundation laid by our beloved master and we must keep it strong by living truth and love. Jaiguru

i think what u say her us mutch rubbish srf is not perfect but many think they are. they are not .its a fact that many are not happy in srf and its silly to say that that have some to do with maya .i also think its silly to say srf is the onley one that can understand masters teatching.and that srf people are the onley one that have true love for master its stupied but thats what i see from beteween the line here.its fact that they have chanche some of the books the first eddition of whisperes are diffrent from to day why chance what master wright?many of u answar like cult members i know this to be true because i am a former cult member u denied all problems like cult members do saying there religion are perfect no religion with imperfect people can be perfect impossible .in evry rerliogions there are problems small and big why deny this?dont misunderstand i do not think srf is a cult but i think some from srf is blind from seeing the truth.they do not like negative stuff about srf.i think its ok to be skeptic and dont belive all they say.i dont like bad stuff about master but srf is not master and vis verca.master belongs to the world not onley srf.yust like jesus not onley belong to christians he belong to the world.christians are not the onley one that can understand and love jesus its the same with master

[blue cowboy]

Paramahansa Yogananda's life mission was the founding of Self-Realization Fellowship. He said as part and parcel of following his teaching was to be loyal to the organization he founded. To do that may sound cultish, but in reality it is what he himself told his disciples to do, and so to follow him as Guru that is what many of us believe is right. We all know the power of maya to embroil us in this show and make it seem real, and maya's mission is to confuse devotees of God - even to a point that they forget their Guru and his teachings. Master's guidance regarding loyalty to his organization I believe is to keep them safe from confusion, forgeting the path and the Guru. By "maya" what devotees here are saying, I think, is it is maya which wants us to forsake the organization our Guru founded and thus fail in the guidance he gave for HIS disciples' salvation.

There is a balance of seeing the reality of imperfection in SRF - as it is made up of imperfect mortals - and being loyal, part of it. Much of Walrus is a misunderstanding, a spin, and a lot is just plain wrong. Before the Master passed, he gave the sole responsibility for Kriya Initiation into the hands of the future presidents of SRF. He said these people were already picked by Mahavatar Babaji and would have realization. He said that it would be the future presidents of SRF who would serve as his representatives on earth.

The Guru gave editorial duties to Sri Tara Mata, and thanked her in even his first edition of the Autobiography. Until she died in about 1971, she used the guidance the Guru gave to her to edit his works. He said of her, "She has never changed one of my thoughts."

There are indeed many TRUE paths to God, and I think Self-Realizationists honor them all, even those who've heard a different message and believe they follow Paramahansa Yogananda thru some other organization.

idf, bc

[mccoy]

Jonsunde,
your thesis (An organization having a monopoly of a teacher is wrong) may be theoretically sound, but in real-life it turns out to be a mistaken concept.

I've been a witness of how the original teachings of such a great soul as Paramhansa Yogananda can be diluted and distorted by so-called "direct disciples" who let their mind be polluted by the satanic influence of ego, proud, arrogance.

So, Even though SRF may look rigid as the Catholic church is, it is a necessary and minor 'evil'.
Satan is ever trying his best to destroy our Master's work, since it is spreading light in the darkness which envelopes this world.
One effective method to undermine Master'steaching is to undermine his organization, which preserves the purity of his work.
The walrus board is a tool of satan, since it is trying to undermine trust in SRF. Some fallen disciples are also conscious or unconscious tools of Satan.
As blue cowboy very rightly says, creating confusion is a ruse of the devil (maya-Satan).
In the past I've been a supporter of one of those disciples who funded organizations and criticize the SRF board of directors.
Later on, I've realized how that fallen and disgraced disciple has deceived many truth seekers with his external bonomie which hides a heart consumed by many, many serious faults such as mendacity, lust, envy and desire of revenge.
SRF has on obligation to defend true devotees from such Judases and I feel, out of loyalty to the Guru, I myself have an obligation to expose the evidence I directly observed and is available to everyone.

The following part has been added later. This board's rules are the following (what should be not done):

Disparaging any organization, group, individual or spiritual entity through speech or innuendo – even if the intentions in doing so are well meant.
Posting links to any articles, web sites, texts or images that are critical in nature towards any organization, group, individual or spiritual entity – whether the information presented is ‘true’ or not.
Encouraging debates that focus on our differences in a negative fashion, rather than highlighting sameness in a positive light.

Maybe I'm a little off on the third part. Unfortunately, sometimes in critical topics debates tend to highlight differences, rather than sameness. The issue of purity of the teachings is sure a critical one, and is probably going to be the most critical when all the great disciples contemporary of Master will have passed.

[blue cowboy]

“Tara Mata (1900-1971)
Self-Realization Fellowship
Vice President and Editor-in-Chief

Describing her work with Paramahansa Yogananda on his writings, Tara Mata wrote the following to an acquaintance in 1937 (at the time, Paramahansaji was composing commentaries on the scriptures):

‘He gets it entirely from inspiration. In fact, it is only through him that I know what ‘inspired books’ really means. He will come to a passage which is so obscure that it defies all possibility of plain interpretation. He will look blankly at me or one of his other secretaries for a while, close his eyes, and presently out will come the whole plain meaning. I tell you it has been an education and a privilege to help with this wonderful book. My end is pure grammar, arrangement, etc. None of the interpretation is anyone’s but swamiji’s.”


And Master on Tara Mata: "Laurie is like a child: without guile, innocent, trusting, loving. But once she begins to see deviousness in anyone toward Self-Realization Fellowship, watch out! she is like a lion roaring."